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quincyjb
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posted August 05, 2002 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quincyjb   Click Here to Email quincyjb        Reply w/Quote

My top choices following Adam Strange:

1) Atomic Knights. There must be some material that could be added to this to make it the correct page count.

2) Kamandi. Jack Kirby work on this, it should sell adequately.

3) Rip Hunter, Time Master

4) Star Hawkins. I really enjoy the light hearted feel of the stories that have been reprinted so far.

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posted August 05, 2002 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outpost2        Reply w/Quote
"?", I had thought of both HERCULES UNBOUND #10 and DC COMICS PRESENTS #57, but neither seemed to fit. The HERCULES tale killed off Bryndon Smith in early 1987, however he was alive well into the 1990's in the STRANGE ADVENTURES series. However, if one assumes that Hercules and friends were drawn 6 years into the future as they entered Lady Agatha Simms' timewarps, then the tale works. So, yeah, I guess I agree with you. The DC COMICS PRESENTS story is best forgotten, as it ruins the entire Atomic Knights saga.

U2, did you know that, according to STARMAN v2 #1000000, Tommy Tomorrow II is destined to become a Starman?

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posted August 05, 2002 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outpost2        Reply w/Quote
BTW, the Atomic Knights also appeared in HERCULES UNBOUND #11, but it was more like a cameo, with the majority of the tale focusing on Hercules, so it is best omitted.

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posted August 05, 2002 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScarletSpider        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jape:
Is that Tommy or Krypto you're with me on, Scarlet?

Tommy Tomorrow, Jape but I'll take a Krypto Archive any day.

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grimmbeau
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posted August 05, 2002 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grimmbeau   Click Here to Email grimmbeau        Reply w/Quote
I'd think Rip Hunter would be a good fit to follow Adam Strange. He has a *little* more recognitio to current fans than Space Ranger, I'd think.

But If this is what it takes toget a Kamandi archives rolling, it certainly wouldn't disappoint me. (Nor would an anthology archives, for that matter -- although I'd probably be happier with another volume of the excellent Mystery In Space paperback!)

Rob

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posted August 05, 2002 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid colt   Click Here to Email kid colt        Reply w/Quote
I like Capt. Comet and the Atomic Knights, but have all those. As such, I would love a Tommy Tomorrow collection. The Real Fact stories, and then you have years worth of Action Comics stories to do.

By the way, am I the only one who thinks the Martian Manhunter's early stories in Detective might qualify as science fiction?

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James Friel
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posted August 05, 2002 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
At the archives panel in San Diego, Bob Wayne stated pretty definitely that (a) when SF is done in the archives, it will almost certainly be done in series rather than anthology form, and (b) Adam Strange goes first, Atomic Knights second.

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posted August 06, 2002 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shazam-0        Reply w/Quote
Isn't it about time for an Ultra The Multi-Alien archive edition?

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U2
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posted August 07, 2002 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for U2   Click Here to Email U2        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by outpost2:

U2, did you know that, according to STARMAN v2 #1000000, Tommy Tomorrow II is destined to become a Starman?


Actually, I did know that. In fact, that's exactly what my fan-fic was about. How Tommy got a cosmic rod, what his connection to the Knight family is, why he doesn't go to the Planeteer Academy like his father wanted him to, and just what this all has to do with Hyper-time (after I read about Hyper-time, the little fan-fic wriuter in me went into overdrive). Oh yeah, and we found out who Ayo Sotenwa is.

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greene
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posted August 07, 2002 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for greene   Click Here to Email greene        Reply w/Quote
I'd forgotten about Tommy Tomorrow. Despite the commendable longevity of his series, I'm really not all that familiar with his stories. Always assumed he was some sort of "Tom Corbett" variation. Surely I have a reprint or two somewhere around here. I guess I'll have to check some of those "Strange Adventures" or "From Beyond the Unknown" reprint issues. Nonetheless, it still seems that the "Atomic Knights" would retain the no.2 sci-fi spot, based on what I've heard from fan discussions over the years.

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James Friel
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posted August 07, 2002 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Speaking of Tommy Tomorrow, I wouldn't mind seeing a trade paperback of all the Lee Elias Showcase issues featuring him, which bear little real relationship to the rest of his series.

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posted August 08, 2002 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
I think I'd really like to see an Adam Strange Archives and whatever else DC has up their Sci-Fi sleeves.

I will be voting for Adam Strange in the upcoming poll to show my support for it, in hopes that a strong showing for this volume will be the tipping point for its publication.

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James Friel
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posted August 08, 2002 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
So will I.
From the first time that there was any hint that the Archives would be expanding beyond Superman and Batman material, Adam Strange has been consistently #1 on my want list.
Mystery In Space was my favorite title from 1959 to 1963 (occasionally sharing the honor with Flash or JLA--and toward the end, with Fantastic Four), and I need those comics to be archived.
Right now, please.

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Mark Katzoff
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posted August 08, 2002 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark Katzoff   Click Here to Email Mark Katzoff        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by quincyjb:

My top choices following Adam Strange:

1) Atomic Knights. There must be some material that could be added to this to make it the correct page count.



I've been giving some thought as to whether there is another short-run series that could be thrown in to round out the book. Star Rovers is a little too long, but Knights of the Galaxy (from Mystery in Space 1-8) is around 70 pages including covers, which would still be a little large, but not enormously over the limit and get you Infantino art to go with the Anderson.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Star Rovers as a separate trade, probably about 96 pages or so and maybe not bad for reconstruction since most of the stories were reprinted in the 70's, but I don't see it as commercial.

Captain Comet would be my second choice for an SF archive since most of the Atomic Knights stories were reprinted in sequence in Strange Adventures in the 70s and only a handful of the Captain Comet stories have been reprinted, but I bet Atomic Knights would be signficantly cheaper to produce.

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James Friel
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posted August 08, 2002 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Despite the current unfavorable climate for anthologies, I'd hate to see either Captain Comet or Knights of the Galaxy collected because it would probably foreclose the possibility of our seeing Mystery In Space or Strange Adventures Archives, at least for a very long time.
And since the climete for artist collections seems to be at least as bad as that for anthologies, I'm not sure there's much hope that the great non-series stuff in those titles will be collected any other way either.
Helluva situation when we've got great work by the likes of Kane, Toth, Infantino, Anderson, and Greene sitting there unused because there's perceived to be no commercial way to package it.

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Space Ranger
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posted August 08, 2002 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Ranger        Reply w/Quote
I just had a successful day on Ebay, managing to pick up coverless Strange Adventures #35 for $19. I wouldn't have to do this, if DC would answer the demand and come up with either a Captain Comet or a Strange Adventures Archive. I would prefer a Captain Comet Archive. What bad is that there were 5 coverless issues for sale and I could only get one. The seller will likely gross about $100 for these books ( with out covers yet!) There was a bidding war with about 8 people involved. The reason I wanted #35 is that this is the chess game issue. The cover may have served as the basis of the famous Justice League cover with the Flash playing chess. I know that this issue was on my want list for a long time. For archives like this, I would be willing to pay more than $49.99 for. Be cheaper for me in the long run.

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srca1941
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posted August 08, 2002 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for srca1941   Click Here to Email srca1941        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Space Ranger:
The seller will likely gross about $100 for these books ( with out covers yet!)

Well, he got over $100 just from me for Sensation 26, Star-Spangled 30, 3 issues of Super-Mystery, and Weird Comics 12, only a scant bit of whgat he was offering! I just hope I wasn't bidding against anyone on this board...

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BillNolan
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posted August 08, 2002 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BillNolan   Click Here to Email BillNolan        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by srca1941:
Well, he got over $100 just from me for Sensation 26, Star-Spangled 30, 3 issues of Super-Mystery, and Weird Comics 12, only a scant bit of whgat he was offering! I just hope I wasn't bidding against anyone on this board...

-Steve



I totally forgot to go back to ebay at the ending times of these auctions! I was planning to maybe bid on the early Target comic, as well as the Super-Mystery ones. Good thing I didn't bid on the Super-Mystery's.

- Bill

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posted August 08, 2002 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for srca1941   Click Here to Email srca1941        Reply w/Quote
I was going to bid on the Target book if I didn't win one of the Super-Mysterys. BTW Bill, are you still missing the centerfold to Super-Mystery vol.2 no.1 (#7)? (Funny that I still remember that request from PEC #1!) If so, I'll scan it when I get it and send it along so you can finally have a complete book.

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posted August 08, 2002 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for srca1941   Click Here to Email srca1941        Reply w/Quote
BTW, I could almost kick myself for not getting Super-Mystery vol.1 no.5. I thought it was way too much, only to learn after the auction that it was the 1st app. of the Clown! Oh well, I spent MORE than enough!

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posted August 08, 2002 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BillNolan   Click Here to Email BillNolan        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by srca1941:
BTW Bill, are you still missing the centerfold to Super-Mystery vol.2 no.1 (#7)? (Funny that I still remember that request from PEC #1!) If so, I'll scan it when I get it and send it along so you can finally have a complete book.

-Steve



I would definitely appreciate that, Steve. I think I'm only missing one centerfold, but I'm not sure, it might be two. I can check again later after you get the book. Then I could finally read another Buckskin Blake story (and fill in some missing info on a Spider story!).

Too bad you missed that first Clown... I love those Magno and Davey stories. I would have loved to produce a M&D CD-ROM, but I just don't have the time!

- Bill

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posted August 09, 2002 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zongo        Reply w/Quote
I also would love an anthology. Some of the one-shot stories were great and they will never be reprinted unless they go with the anthology approach. I'll get Atomic Knights the day it comes out!

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Space Ranger
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posted August 09, 2002 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Ranger        Reply w/Quote
Jef Hinds really had a great set of auctions yesterday. He has a smaller set for next Thursday, but there is at least one America's Best and two Startling. Dick Sabo is bidding on the America's Best. I don't recognize the bidder on the Startling books. Met a great guy, Shawn Clay, who has a great MLJ site and he has a goal of posting all 219 books of the MLJ hero run. Check out
www.goldcomics.com

His site is great. What we need is a similiar site for DC Science Fiction.

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srca1941
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posted August 09, 2002 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for srca1941   Click Here to Email srca1941        Reply w/Quote
Yup, Shawn's a good guy. I recently sent him scans of Jackpot Comics #1 which is currently the book of the month on his site, and will also send him Zip Comics #42 when I get the chance to scan it.

As for the America's Best issue, you can tell Dick (I don't know him) that it is #12. Also, if you happen to know who's bidding on the unknown issue of Exciting Comics, it's #20. I'll gladly provide cover scans of both if anyone who reads this wins, or knows whoever wins these auctions.

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posted August 12, 2002 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Osgood Peabody   Click Here to Email Osgood Peabody        Reply w/Quote
I think I've pieced together how the Atomic Knights could be "done in one".

It's true that the stories themselves amount to just 180 pages, but they can add in 4 AK covers (1 during the original run, 3 during the later reprint run), plus the 14 original non-AK Strange Adventure covers to come up with a total content of 198 pages.

A slender volume, but not unprecedented - and 4 covers to put on the back. And most of the stories previously reprinted, which would presumably lower reproduction costs. And, best of all, they have the Broome/Anderson/Schwartz seal of approval.

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